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Leave a comment on this post and I will pick three of your fandoms. Then you get to answer the following questions:

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1. The first character I first fell in love with: Aang, such an honest guy who's really struggling to do the right thing.
2. The character I never expected to love as much as I do now: Zuko, mostly because of backlash against the more enthused fanboys and fangirls.
3. The character everyone else loves that I don't: None, I love them all.
4. The character I love that everyone else hates: Aang, apparently the limit on deus ex machina is two, not three.
5. The character I used to love but don't any longer: None.
6. The character I would shag anytime: I'll go with...Ty Lee.
7. The character I'd want to be like: Aang.
8. The character I'd slap: Zuko, you putz, no text message break ups!
9. A pairing that I love: Kataang
10. A pairing that I despise: Zutara
11. Favorite character: Katara. Aang may have been my first love, but Katara really is on a whole 'nother level.
12. My five favorite characters: Aang, Katara, Toph, Azula, Mai
13. My five least favorite characters: None
14. Which character I am most like: Sokka. I tend to make a lot of wisecracks anyway.
15. My deep, dark fandom secret: I really, honestly don't get why fandom thinks Fire/Water is so significant in the series. It isn't!

.Hack:
1. The first character I first fell in love with: Mimiru, very energetic and eager to help.
2. The character I never expected to love as much as I do now: Haseo, I never would have expected his development to have been so complex and involved.
3. The character everyone else loves that I don't: None, I love everyone in their own way.
4. The character I love that everyone else hates: Mistral. Screw all the haters, energetic pregnant housewife who helps save the world for the win!
5. The character I used to love but don't any longer: None.
6. The character I would shag anytime: Pi. Because Pi is delicious!
7. The character I'd want to be like: Kite, I wouldn't mind becoming a legendary hero.
8. The character I'd slap: Zelkova. Stop being so damn mysterious!
9. A pairing that I love: Tsukasa/Subaru
10. A pairing that I despise: I don't despise it, but I don't like what Haseo/Endrance does to Endrance's character.
11. Favorite character: Ovan. Damn, but did he know how to run a Xanatos Roulette
12. My five favorite characters: Subaru, Crim, Sanjuro, Kuhn, Atoli
13. My five least favorite characters: None.
14. Which character I am most like: In all honesty, Elk/Endrance; I'm a bit of a shut-in, though nowhere near as neurotic thankfully.
15. My deep, dark fandom secret: I like both versions of The World.

Yugioh:
1. The first character I first fell in love with: Anzu. She is just one of the most human characters ever.
2. The character I never expected to love as much as I do now: Yami, he came across as too much 'standard issue hero', until I got to the manga and saw what he came from. Whoa.
3. The character everyone else loves that I don't: Yami Malik, mostly because everyone else seems to have a completely different conception of what Yami Malik is like from the actual canon.
4. The character I love that everyone else hates: Anzu. Oh no, a girl, she'll ruin everything with her friendship speeches, aihhh!
5. The character I used to love but don't any longer: Seto Kaiba. I've mellowed out on him a lot. If it weren't for Mokuba, I'd have forgotten about him entirely.
6. The character I would shag anytime: Mai Kujaku. For fricks sake, look at her!
7. The character I'd want to be like: Yugi. That gentle strength is something to admire.
8. The character I'd slap: Seto Kaiba, please to stop being in denial!
9. A pairing that I love: Anzu/Yuugi. Hits way too many of my buttons for me not to love it.
10. A pairing that I despise: Seto/Jounouchi.
11. Favorite character: Anzu.
12. My five favorite characters: Yugi, Anzu, Jounouchi, Honda, Otogi.
13. My five least favorite characters: The anime filler characters with the exception of Rebecca and Vivian.
14. Which character I am most like: Early Yugi, very quiet and meek in person.
15. My deep, dark fandom secret: I hate that people are so unaware of the manga

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Zuko, you putz, no text message break ups!

Hahahaha trufax!

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Aw, give Zuko a break on the breakup thing. He was turning traitor and Mai worked for his sister, who would kill him/turn him in in a heartbeat. What else could he have done?

You know, I feel like I've done a million of these, but it's always so fun, so hit me again. :)

He could have asked his hot ninja girlfriend to come along. Just saying!

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Except said hot ninja girlfriend had never defied his sister (to his knowledge) and, in fact, had been known to follow her instructions over Zuko's wishes. He had every reason to think she would be horrified that he was turning traitor and turn her in. And even if she didn't, he would have put her in a terrible position. Either turn in her boyfriend or be party to treason. I think not telling her his intentions beforehand was the more noble option in this case.

Although I would agree with the "no text breakup" as a general rule. :)

I'll post my answers on my journal.

10. A pairing that I despise: Zutara

How come? Most of the fics for it are junk, but every rare once in a while something comes along which focuses on the emotional connection they made over the series- catacombs and then the raiders- rather than some stupid idea of sexual tension which badly imitates Tsundere/jerk romances. Like most pairings, but especially popular ones- it's usually crappy, but when it's good, it's good.

3. The character everyone else loves that I don't: Yami Malik, mostly because everyone else seems to have a completely different conception of what Yami Malik is like from the actual canon.

I try very hard to forget what the fanon view of him is. Actually, I think I have forgotten... Huh, I have. Anyway, he mainly interests me because he's a split part of Malik's psyche. All those hatreds in him were once a part of Malik, after all.

13. My five least favorite characters: The anime filler characters with the exception of Rebecca and Vivian.

You like Vivian? How come? (I thought I was the only one who did! *shifty eyes* And it's not just because of her dresses, really!)

15. My deep, dark fandom secret: I hate that people are so unaware of the manga

My secret shame is that I've still read so little of the manga. I've read the first arc, none of the second, none of the third, and I've, um, skimmed the last arc. I would have actually read it, but the scans I've got are too small, and I can't do much more than look at the pictures with the kanji and furigana blurred as they are. I'm planning on collecting the bunkoban, though, so hopefully I can rectify the situation soon.

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Well, the bigger part of the problem is that I was deeply involved with the Avatar Fandom as the show was still being broadcast, and there were many Zutara fans who were very forceful and insistent that their ship was going to be canon, despite the manifest fact that it was never going to happen. Combine that with the fact that I didn't much care for the ship to begin with, and you have my despising of it. *shrugs*

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The fanon of him is where he is capable of being shipped with the original Malik. Yeah, I know fandom can ship all kinds of things, but I draw the line at shipping a character with their own mental disorder.

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Vivian is just really fun and upfront, plus I like it whenever the writers take the time to make fun of the fandom (Vivian would be right at home with any number of Mary Sue/OCs, except that she'd be too awesome for them). Plus, she wanted to make Yuugi her love slave, and I can't hate any character for that, even Anzu did.

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Ooh, the bunkoban volumes. I've heard about those. I tried to learn Japanese a while back, but I didn't do very well, and I've forgotten most of that besides. If you do get a hold of them, let me know when you get Volume 6; I'd be interested in a translation of the Tarot Pages for that volume.

Ah. I wasn't part of any fandom back then, and I've always kept myself removed from those sorts of shipping debates anyway. Unless the canon ship is actually bad, why bother? And in that case it's likely that the author is a bad one and would screw up a romance even with a more compatible couple, so it's still moot point, I think ^^;

I guess there's a use to ignoring a lot of that type of stuff- I've never had the experience of despising something because of the hype. Well, all right, there's one fantasy series which annoys me because it's famous and yet the author knows nothing of the genre and it shows, badly, but besides that... All right, I'm a hypocrite. Apologies DX

Ack, Bronzeshipping is easily the worst of the popular pairings.

She is lots of fun ^^ One thing I find odd is that even though she was always talking about wanting a dueling partner (or love slave XD), instead the few people who do talk about her seem to think she's a gold-digger. Whereas I got the impression that she'd go after any duelist with talent and a good reputation, really. Oh, and good looks. Those are important too.

I can't speak fluently (lack of opportunity for practice, mainly), but I can read comfortably and, given a dictionary, translate from Japanese to English decently. So when I get around to Volume 6 I'll do that! I've already found a store online which sells them, so I should see about ordering a few books right away... I need to figure out which bunko Otogi is introduced in, though, because I want to go over the manga version in order to write him.

Well, vivian is also going after Seto Kaiba, so that's where the gold digging comes from, presumably.

I'm mostly interested in Volume 6, due to the fact that that one has the The Tarot page for the Lovers. Which, as it so happens, is identified as Anzu and Yuugi. *I just might be a bit of a shipper* But getting the actual story on Otogi is definitely a good thing too. The anime totally butchered his entire story arc. *grr*

True, but it's not like she's ever canonically indicated that she's after the money, so I get annoyed to see it listed as fact by some people. You could infer it (maybe she doesn't know that Yuugi is really, really not rich?), but please don't call it canon!

Aww. Oh, BTW, I'm curious- besides Peachshipping, what are some of the other ships you enjoy reading?

They really did, and it's so...weird. Usually they might leave things out, but not butcher it to that extent. I really like the anime version of AE since it gives background on Atemu's childhood, plus...teenage!Mahaado was so awesome. And the Atemu-Mana-Mahaado scenes. So few, but they got a lot of relationship dynamics into such a short space of time.

But Otogi...I've got a long story in planning which involves him (and everyone else who was there for the Ceremonial Duel DX), and I'm definitely going by his manga arc for it.

Agreed!

What other ships do I enjoy? I'm assuming you mean in the Yugioh fandom; if so, I'm okay with Mai/Jounouchi, the whole Mana/Mahaad/Atem relationship, and I even read a Ryou/Malik fic once that was pretty neat. But really, I don't look for any ship other than Anzu/Yuugi; I'm pretty big on the whole OTP thing in any given fandom.

While I do like the additional background with Atem-Mana-Mahaad, the anhime does make a bunch of other dumb changes, like having Thief King Bakura be possessed by Yami Bakura, having modern day Seto Kaiba come along too...Mind you, I don't care much for many of the changes that the anime made; they had good music and voice acting, but I'll stick with the manga the whole way through.

Ooh, sounds fun! I look forward to it!

You read a good Angstshipping story?! I'm surprised- I've yet to see any that I've found enjoyable. But then, I can't stand all of the woobie characterizations of Malik, or the ones who forget all of his characterization over Battle City and assume that since he's 'reformed' they can just write him as, well, bland. Sadly, there are almost no post-BC stories about Malik which I've liked.

Well, technically both Bakura were possessed by Zorc. I rather like the parasitic nature of Zorc's possession techniques in the anime, especially because he seems to think that he's being symbiotic.

I think that they might have made some changes in the hopes of having more wriggle room for extra story if they needed it while waiting on the manga. I don't deny their mistakes, but I think I'm more sympathetic to them because the logistics of adapting such a long series, adding in whole extra arcs while waiting on the manga, and keeping everything relevant and consistent....on what basically amounts to the first draft since you can't go back and edit an episode that's been aired...must be a total nightmare.

There's a reason I don't plan on ever writing serial works, so I can sympathize.

Thank you! It's going to be a long time before I get to it, though- it's going to be novel-length, and I don't have the time for it along with my other chaptered projects at the moment. Maybe when I'm done with the current novel-length monstrosity. The pace and the setting probably won't allow for a huge amount of shipping, but if it does go beyond subtext then some Peachshipping will be present.

Angstshipping? Why am I not surprised? Anyway, the story I'm talking about is by My Aibou, who's written a bunch of other good stories that I think, based on our brief conversations, that you'd enjoy. Unless you've already read her works that is.

Yeah, but I feel it diminishes the significance of Thief King Bakura to have him be possessed by Yami Bakura; make's him look like a hapless victim rather than a complex villain in his own right.

Oh yeah, the issue of adapting long-running shonen series and the needs to work padding and pacing properly so as not to leap ahead of the source material, that is something I am well and familiar with. I just find that the changes and fillers that the anime does make, clash far too strongly with the source material for my taste. Particularly DOMA.

Yeah, serial work is a pain; you've got to keep working on and on on it, and at least others get to make a profit off of it; writing serial fanfiction earns you nothing in money!

Your current novel-length monstrosity? Sounds interesting! And while it is not anywhere near necessary, Peachshipping is always a plus in my book!

Heh, well it's still better than some names, like Citronshipping- at least 'Angstshipping' has some form of logic behind it!

point, but in either version the TKBakura we see in the World of Memory is being used, and in the original ancient Egypt the possession by Zorc began presumably when he stole the Ring from Mahaado, so...there's never any large period of time in which we see a Bakura entirely free of outside coercion.

I certainly don't think he's a hapless victim, though- he set out to kill the Pharaoh and take the Items by himself, and all Zorc changed was that 'summon Zorc' was tacked onto the end of his list of goals.

Oh, I'm certainly not arguing with that. Though now I'm wondering: what could have been done (besides plotless duel-of-the-week filler!) in order to fill up those 50 episodes they needed before they could start on the Memory Arc? The anime writers always seemed to be stuck at a need for filler arcs right where it would be massively awkward to pause the story and add them in. And you know, the alternative to 'stop-the-plot' filler would be the writers attempting their own renditions of the main duels and how the tournament ended. Don't tell me you would have preferred that!

(BTW, while I would have loved a look at how YGO's magic effected other ancient societies, I couldn't stand what most of DOMA did with it. The Memory Arc had a consistent magic system solid enough to make my fantasy writer-self squee, please don't be screwing with it!)

I can't really do serials anyway because I write so sporadically and out of order. "Oh, you wanted chapter ten? Well...I just wrote chapter eighteen, how's that?" I'm better off completing it all and then posting.

It's....going to be long-winded ^^; And it deals quite a bit with the anime version of Zorc's possession- the idea that Zorc slowly subsumes their will by twisting it to his own ends. Only with Bakura there really isn't very far to twist it. I'm looking forward to writing the scene where it's revealed that Bakura has become possessed. Malik's reaction: "Should I even be concerned about this? There doesn't seem to be any significant change in his behavior, after all." ... Bakura and Malik have the most epically unromantic romance ever, I swear.

Yeah, Thief King Bakura was always being used I suppose, but there's the way its presented in the manga vs. the anime, where in the manga TKBakura doesn't realize he's being used until he starts dissolving into sand, while the anime has him only being aware of what's happening around him right at the very end, which just doesn't have the same dramatic impact for me.

Well, one thing that would have definitely helped is if the anime writers were to have toned it down, like ten or twenty notches; they kept making everything too big, too expansive, the world always being on the verge of destruction...bleh, how about a more personal scale, like in the manga, the source material? Yugioh R, for example has the right level of scale, tone, and...plausible extrapolations from the original manga, that if something like that were to be the sort of filler that the anime went with...who knows, I might have ended up preferring the anime to the manga!

(And oh god, I hated that garbage about the parallel world of the Duel Monsters, and GX and 5Ds both, have pretty much run with that. What was wrong with the monsters being summoned from a piece of the human soul, may I ask?)

As for your story, that does sound very interesting, so when you've got that all put together, I'd definitely be interested in taking a look at it.

Bakura actually dies more quickly in the manga, though. There doesn't seem to be a clear moment where he realizes he's been used, whereas in the anime he's released from his possession and actually told by YnBakura that his usefulness is over. I don't think their deaths are hugely different, though *shrugs*

Gah, and it's still better than the dub, where everything was about the fate of the world. But the anime writers really are terrible at coming up with their own plots- they're much better when they stick to a bit of character extrapolation like with Atemu's childhood in the last arc. Sometimes I think it's a shame that anime are always started up so soon alongside the manga. Who knows what it could have been if it had started up much later and been able to stick to the manga's plot entirely.

I never watched much GX, but I remember being really baffled by that episode where BMG showed up and dueled. I mean, what? If there's a full soul inside of her at all it should be Mana's, which it wasn't, and even if Mana had bound herself to her Kaa, which we don't know one way or the other (though it must have been placed in a Sealing Tablet at some point before her death for Pegasus to be able to make the card)... Um. I really can't make sense of what BMG was doing in GX.

I love the magical details of the last arc, though. Especially Kaa/magical abilities being a part of the soul, and hence obviously something everyone has the potential to tap into. The idea that everyone has magical powers isn't an idea which shows up often in fantasy fiction over here.

Thank you!

Well, like I said before, it's a matter of the whole presentation of Thief King Bakura. Still, I see what you mean. *shrugs along with you*

Yeah, if more Manga-to-Anime adaptations followed the model of Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood or Dragonball Kai, serial anime would be much more enjoyable to watch.

Oh god, the BMG episode of GX...it's funny, but the dub actually tried to make sense of what she was doing there. The original? Seemed like her being around was just an excuse to advertise a few cards, and boobs. I'm definitely going to enjoy ranting on that episode, when I get to it.

And yes, the fact that EVERYONE has that potential, it's just a matter of developing it and training it, is what makes the whole Ba/Ka system so interesting. But no, GX and 5Ds just loves themselves some super special awesome chosen ones, normal people and the power of friendship need not apply. And "over here" is...?

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They did? How? And gah, I really dislike all of the sexual use of the BMG- she's the Kaa of a girl who's what, probably about thirteen? I don't mind younger characters being romantically/sexually involved when it's appropriate for the culture and time period they're in, but using them for sexual imagery is not on.

It does seem that some people naturally have more powerful Kaa, but that's a different creature to the typical 'special chosen magic-users' thing, and it's also shown that someone's Kaa can grow in strength, so again it's not the same sort of barrier. If I ever get the chance in an AU or something, I'd really like to explore the potential of some of the modern characters concerning magic. I always got the impression that Jounouchi would have a rather powerful Kaa, and definitely lots of potential, for instance. (Also Anzu would so have a pretty Kaa which could kick someone's head in)

I like to think of the Ishtars as magic users a bit, too. If magical documents still exist today in the real world then there should be some in YGO's world, and Malik and Ishizu would probably have the necessary experience, given their time using the Rod and Tauk.

By 'over here' I mean western fantasy.

Well, when I say 'boobs', I'm just referring to the fact that Black Magician Girl has a very fanservice oriented design, and pretty much all anyone talks about in that episode is how cute Black Magician Girl is. It wasn't anything more vulgar or crude from the original manga or anime, it's just that the fundamental pointlessness leaves the fanservice as the only real reason why they brought her in like that.

Some people are stronger, smarter, tougher, faster, but that's always a matter of degree and you can always train yourself to improve on any of these traits, and this would be even more so in the case of magical potential. And yeah, Jounouchi and Anzu would have some damn impressive Kaas, that's for sure. (And Yuugi would so fanboy over how awesome Anzu was with her Kaa. Though that might just be the shipper in me talking.)

Yeah, the Ishtars are definitely experienced with matters of magic even outside of the Millennium Items.

Ah, I see. Yeah, western fantasy is super big on chosen ones.

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